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Today's Question - gearbox

Postby jpsmit » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:43 pm

Perhaps by now many of you will figure out that I have the attention span of - oh look a butterfly.

In the midst of a heatwave here in Toronto (currently 27 but feels like 37) and therefore not moving far or quickly.

Last weekend I went to use the MG only to discover the wipers weren't working. Fairly certain it is the switch so, of course I dismantled the motor (as one does) and now I can't get it back together with the brushes in place, so, before it went through the window I figured I should do something else.

Looked down on the floor and there was a GT gearbox just waiting to be cleaned. So, since it didn't involve crawling under anything or sharp edges I thought I might get back to it. At this point I have mounted the gear lever and it seems to shift OK so, I will be leaving well enough alone - clean, change the oil and reinstall.

That said, two questions.

1. as per the picture attached, there is a rubber boot at the end of the gearbox, it has a small tear and there is some abrasion on the edge - does this matter? all I see is cast underneath.

2. am I correct that removing the linkage to clean is a dumb idea as it would require setup when I put it back?

thanks all as usual.

(oo and, bonus question any special instructions for changing the oil? kerosene to clean or oil weight or amount in or incantations?)

Cheers!

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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby droopsnoot » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:48 pm

That rubber boot is the rear oil seal. The key part is the inner edge, where the propshaft slides in - if that's in good nick, then the trouble around the outside probably won't matter too much - you could probably just stick a sheet of thin rubber around the outside to neaten it if you felt like it.

Not sure about the linkage, I think it's different on the HB box to the HC box. Other than packing with washers of varying thickness, I don't think there's any adjustment on the HC linkage.
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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby 1972nail » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:27 pm

A new rear seal is difficult to source and when you do find one it's expensive for what it is. The HC linkage has a sideways adjustment to alter the sideways throw of the lever. It has quite an effect on the smoothness of 2nd to 3rd changes and visa-versa. Some of the complaints of poor synchromesh on these boxes is due to poor adjustment here.
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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby jpsmit » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:58 am

1972nail wrote:A new rear seal is difficult to source and when you do find one it's expensive for what it is. The HC linkage has a sideways adjustment to alter the sideways throw of the lever. It has quite an effect on the smoothness of 2nd to 3rd changes and visa-versa. Some of the complaints of poor synchromesh on these boxes is due to poor adjustment here.


thanks for this! Next question - were gearboxes painted?
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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby droopsnoot » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:16 am

On my HC boxes, I think the body was painted black, and the tail extension left "bare".
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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby 1972nail » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:04 pm

That's the way I think they were painted too. I just painted mine all black.
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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby jpsmit » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:26 am

Continuing to clean the gearbox - last night was removing cleaning and replacing the reverse light switch - lovely bit of kit - replaced the O ring and all is good.

I dismantled the pivot point of the shifter (the bottom piece that attaches to the gearbox itself - when it comes to reassembling, what do you suggest for lube? oil? assembly lube? nothing? It seems like it needs something but on the other hand a greased pivot will attract dirt and grit.

thoughts?
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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby 1972nail » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:17 am

I've just used some assembly grease sparingly on mine. There'll be enough lubrication from the engine oil leaks to keep it moving OK..... :D
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Postby jpsmit » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:37 pm

1972nail wrote:I've just used some assembly grease sparingly on mine. There'll be enough lubrication from the engine oil leaks to keep it moving OK..... :D


kind of what I was thinking - thanks!
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Re: Today's Question - gearbox

Postby jpsmit » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:34 am

Almost there - gearbox cleaned off and linkages lubed and reinstalled. No surprise to find that when I took out the oil plug nothing came out. Soooo two questions.

1. Is one of the circled screws the fill plug? and.

2. If I fill it now will it flow out through the tailshaft as it does on some MGs?

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