Getting marvin ready

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Getting marvin ready

Postby pbottomley » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:48 pm

Mike the simple answer is no... its a NOS carb from Adrian, although it did need stripping and rebuilding before it was usable... the fact that the car ran like a dream up till friday afternoon would say to me its fine?

second isue is I have never stripped and rebuilt a carb in my life... the truth of the matter is I can drive them, lift big things and fix big things but carbs, elsetrics are all white mans magic...

thridly as i said given up with it.... too many hours fo so little pleasure :(
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Postby AUTOMAN » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:06 pm

Paul, I am bringing my HB estate to Billing on a trailer that I have hired for the whole weekend. Would you like to borrow it to get Marvin to Billing on Friday and maybe somebody there will have a look at him for you sir? If this helps, you are more than welcome sir.

Ian.
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Postby bulldog » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:52 pm

try a new coil it may be breaking down or condenser may be at fault?
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Postby pbottomley » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:47 pm

Rigth had a hot bath and time to cool off!!,, went back out, as i needed to swap the 13" wheel soff Marvin for the old crossplys. Next door works for a tyre compnay is doing me a set of 13" tyres new fitted etc for £60.

Anyways so there I am wheels done and a littel idea pops inot my head, so i swapped the condensor for a new one, re checked all the HT and LT leads, and tried again DEAD... but tried easy start down the carb and it fires inot life and runs till its out of easy start... suggests to me its a 100% fuel issue...

this engine has already eaten 3 fuel pumps in its 8 miles of life maybe its eaten its 4th? if it keep on eating fuel pumps one has to ask is there a serious internal issue on the lobes? if so what can i do !! bugger all to be honest
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Postby Firenzaboy » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:11 pm

Could always fit an electric pump in the boot (same as MGB) - that'd get round any drive issues you might have
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Getting marvin ready

Postby pbottomley » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:15 pm

easier said than doen Dave, when you have no more free time till Billing and as said finding out that all i seem to do is make it worse not better... unless your Free Tuesday evenming and can do it !
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Postby Johnboy HB » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:44 am

what are you doing with the old crossply tyres ? are they still serviceable ? and if so would you sell them
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Postby pbottomley » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:47 pm

The old tyres are 6.25 x 12 crossplys, they are bad and are not road
usable...might polish up for a stand at best.

Why would you want old crossply tyres?
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Postby pbottomley » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:34 pm

Are there differences between 1057, 1159 and 1256 fuel pumps, in terms of
the lobes on the back, not the fuel pipe fitments?

How important is a spacer with a fuel pump?

Which pump type is correct for a 1159 SL90 engine?

How can I tell if the pumps I have are the correct sort?

How thick is the spacer between engine and pump?

with those questions in mind here is where I think the problem with marvin
lies, in the 10 months of ownership I have driven approximatly 8 miles so
far and in that time used 4 fuel pumps.

Yesterday was my last day in which to play with the car in order to get it
running for Billing. But all I ended up doing was making the car worse
rather than better.

I swapped the rubber fuel hose from the pump to the carb... as that may of
caused a vapor lock. I replaced it with a the correct metal fuel rail (the
sort that goes around the rocker cover) and new rubber hoses and jubilee
clips.

I also drained out the fuel tank, in case it was water logged, and added
fresh new fuel. Also checked the hoses for blockages NONE found.(dampness
on inside of fuel cap found upon inspection).

The car now appears dead.... I am wondering if the fuel pump has failed
yet again... if so this points to being a serious issue of the engine
eating pumps, or a fundemental issue of wrong pump types on the engine...

Anyways those are just my thoughts for now, ideas, helpful hints on fuel
pumps types, etc welcome
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Getting marvin ready

Postby ADRIAN » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:25 pm

Send me a photo of the pump? Adrian
P.S. Have you ensured that the fuel pump operating arm is running on the top of the camshaft lobe and not underneath it.?

It will still pump if mounted underneath, but at only about quarter of its true power. (little squirts!)

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From: pbottomley (restoration@vauxhallviva.com)
Date: 07/02/07 13:35:12
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Subject: Re: Getting marvin ready


Are there differences between 1057, 1159 and 1256 fuel pumps, in terms of
the lobes on the back, not the fuel pipe fitments?

How important is a spacer with a fuel pump?

Which pump type is correct for a 1159 SL90 engine?

How can I tell if the pumps I have are the correct sort?

How thick is the spacer between engine and pump?

with those questions in mind here is where I think the problem with marvin
lies, in the 10 months of ownership I have driven approximatly 8 miles so
far and in that time used 4 fuel pumps.

Yesterday was my last day in which to play with the car in order to get it
running for Billing. But all I ended up doing was making the car worse
rather than better.

I swapped the rubber fuel hose from the pump to the carb... as that may of
caused a vapor lock. I replaced it with a the correct metal fuel rail (the
sort that goes around the rocker cover) and new rubber hoses and jubilee
clips.

I also drained out the fuel tank, in case it was water logged, and added
fresh new fuel. Also checked the hoses for blockages NONE found.(dampness
on inside of fuel cap found upon inspection).

The car now appears dead.... I am wondering if the fuel pump has failed
yet again... if so this points to being a serious issue of the engine
eating pumps, or a fundemental issue of wrong pump types on the engine...

Anyways those are just my thoughts for now, ideas, helpful hints on fuel
pumps types, etc welcome




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