EU Court Ruling

[chrismc]

So all the 'brexiters' voted for was to restrict the UK in having a say in the making of the rules and regs we will have to abide by anyway.
So in a nut shell, the 1 or 2 % that forced us to leave the EU, have ham-stringed us for years to come.

Agree

If 'the common man' does this with his vote, then he should not be allowed to vote at all.

Disagree

Lighten up guys this is a site for Viva-ing not politics

Agree.

[lord13]

Eer who are you calling common Best have another referendum - see if it gets an answer you like
Lighten up guys this is a site for Viva-ing not politics

common man = electorate ....everyone is 'common'

..but of course you are right, I just get a little defensive on the whole 'brexit' thing, my wife is of mixed nationality, and is very worried at the way things are going.

Another referendum won't sort the issue, we just shouldn't've got to vote on this, the british public on a whole cannot be trusted to make this sort of decision in my view, especially when the majority get swayed by the media so easily, no one does the research any more. And i lump the 'remain-ers' in with this too, as the argument to remain was utterly devoid of any 'meat', no wonder the 'leave' vote got it when the argument to remain was so weak....but still, what's done is done...unfortunately no one in charge knows what to do now anyway.

[lord13]

So all the 'brexiters' voted for was to restrict the UK in having a say in the making of the rules and regs we will have to abide by anyway.
So in a nut shell, the 1 or 2 % that forced us to leave the EU, have ham-stringed us for years to come.

Agree

If 'the common man' does this with his vote, then he should not be allowed to vote at all.

Disagree

Lighten up guys this is a site for Viva-ing not politics

Agree.

I wish i remembered how to 'multi-quote' :/

the 'not allowed to vote' bit was tongue in cheek.... but i'd happily welcome a dictatorship, without the torturing and corruption of course

[pbottomley]

So in a nut shell, the 1 or 2 % that forced us to leave the EU, have ham-stringed us for years to come.

Vote to leave was actually 51.9%

Dont work in a bookies do you ?

[jpsmit]

.... but i'd happily welcome a dictatorship, without the torturing and corruption of course

Read the first half of your statement and was going to suggest you move to the USA - then saw the second half and thought, naw, don't bother.

[AccieMad]

Just a couple points and my only post on this:-

There is no hard or soft Brexit. We leave the EU or we don't. The PM has said this a number of times.

We will still have access to but not be a member of the single market after Brexit. We'll be able to sell into the EU whatever happens. We will not 'lose access' Again stated clearly a number of times.

If we strike a trade deal with the EU great if not we'll go to WTO. In any event we'll strike deals with the rest of the world (which we can't atm).

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No matter what way we leave the EU we will STILL ultimately be a part of the EU

' Doesn't make sense, did you mean ultimately be a part of Europe?'

Whether for the best or not long term who knows.

Anyway back to the Viva.

[lord13]

So in a nut shell, the 1 or 2 % that forced us to leave the EU, have ham-stringed us for years to come.

Vote to leave was actually 51.9%

Dont work in a bookies do you ?

leave = 51.9%, remain = 48.1% ....the difference is 1.9%, so my comment of '1 or 2 %' was correct.

[lord13]

We will still have access to but not be a member of the single market after Brexit. We'll be able to sell into the EU whatever happens. We will not 'lose access' Again stated clearly a number of times.

don't recall saying we will lose access....just the ability to have a say in how the rules that govern us are implemented

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No matter what way we leave the EU we will STILL ultimately be a part of the EU

' Doesn't make sense, did you mean ultimately be a part of Europe?'

Yes...but also that we will still be governed by the EU in some respects

Anyway back to the Viva.

There are a couple of you stating that this is a forum for viva's etc and we shouldn't be talking politics, but this 'thread' was started as a political thread, and had nothing to do with viva's, so the discussion is valid and should not have to have members telling us not to 'talk politics'. If there is no room on the forum for politics then remove the thread. I, for one, welcome the chance to talk about it, there has been no 'name calling' or other such unpleasantness, and this is an important issue.....albeit one we can do nothing about. It's good to see the views of others, I may even get some information, or reassurance that makes me understand or believe that everything will actually be ok after all.

[pbottomley]

Ohh its been very polite and thats a welcome change for a off club topic thread.....